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at I he FBI Washington Reid Office. 601 A'h Street NW. Wa&hiiyton DC. Present for the imervie u

leouns cu

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Attorn ey at Law. at

from the Denartffleit of Justice (DOJ)

agreed to siu n;! non-

iA>umennieliigence and Kxjx>rt Control Section. Prior to the interview!

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disclosure u;ji cement in anticipation o f viewing classified documents during the inteiview. Alter [.wing

:xd\ >scd o f the identities of the inter viewing agents, and she purpose of the interview,

provided die following information:

ii i.-Vfr't)i ^ beca me th e U .S. De nartm en! o f S tate {Do S)

land er 1 f

cont inu ed to serve- as- she unde r -------------1

beca me ihe und er befo re beim : nam ed the

. As the offic e was lo cate d in W as hing ton D C but he trav ele d iVcquent iy a nd

took trips io Afghanistan and Pakistan every four to six weeks.

did not have frequent contact with the Secretary o f State when

did not nave trequ

This was because |_

communications with the Secretary and her team lumscll.

iiaudk'd alt of die direct

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[described his role under

as be in« external facing. Me further explained that he was n^p.msihlt- for ^oordinaiiiv..

with Congress and laei! Hating other hyer:

focused on Afghanistan matters when,

focus ntainlv on Pakistan, in this; role.

econo mic enga gem ents.

becam e th e I l bccau sc

had m ore resa dar co ntact wit h the Sec retary and her

became more

wanted to

team, which included traveling to the rcyion with {hem.

iS' i'( M '()}

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provided that he primarily interacted with the following individuals on

the Secretary's team: CHERYf.. MILLS for USAID and communications mailers; JAK.E .SULLIVAN for

policy manor* and so raenare for Denn tv Committee or Principal Committee meetings; HUMA ABE DIN

iil£

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ba sh es : an dT idr communications matters. noted that he has

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a.w o i ; o ) comm unic ated dire ctly with SUL LIVA N and MILL S for an ythin g tha t

needed the Secre tary's atte ntion . E xamp les mclu dc to pics that invo lved inter natio nal matte rs. topics that

could pote ntially imp uci DoS e quiti es, and t opics inv olvin g pri vate secto r en gage ments . T hese excha nges

could he ei ther class ified or u ncla ssifie d de pendi ng o n th e .specific conte nt and w ere done via the

appro priate telep hone or email syst em.

<L.-/+*H-*») While at D oS,

;.i j WK'S acco unt. DoS also issu ed

email accou nt, a nd a STL for his h osm

overse as b ecause oth er c omm unica tion chan nels were oft en no t av ailable .

had ifcii Open.Net and Ciass Net acco unt but he did not have

a Bla ckber ry. which wa s lin ked !o his unc lassifi ed DoS

used his Black berry ema il ex tensiv ely whe n he was

f i ’-LOU O) could o nly recall one inst ance follo wing the birth of his .son w hen he

receive d an e/nail dire ctly from the Sec retary, Me r emem bere d that the ema il ca me from a no n-Do S em ail

was n<,n aware that the Secr etary was using

aware o fan v o ther DoS

accoun t but he didn't think m uch of it a? the tim e,

a priv ate em ail accou nt a nd s erver to c ondu ct D oS b usine ss, n or w as

emplo yees usin g per sona! ema il acc oun ts f or offi cial busin ess. provi ded thai lie had the

persona l ema il a ddres ses of bo th S ULLI VAN and M ILLS but he di d not recal l ev er ushm those acc ounts

ibi of ficial bus iness.

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confir med that he was read into a Spec ial

underst ood the

Access Pro gram,__________________________________________________________

sensit ivities surr ound ing the p rogra m a nd t he nee d to app ropria tely safe guar d re lated info rmatio n. As

such, the DoS s tance was not so publ icly c omm ent osi the progra m.

was s hown a co py o f an emai l cha in from

stated that lie did not

Decem ber o f 201 i wit h th e sub ject "( S H U ' A fter r eview ing the e mai

remem ber t he ci rcum stan ces in whi ch the em ail was o rigin ally sent. .Howeve r, b ased on th e ema il t ime

stamp b elieved he was in C alifor nia when he r eceiv ed t he c ma

had am oth er me ans o f fo rwar dhm the i nform atio n to thos e wh o ne eded it.

and t hat woul d not have

stated thai

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sendin g in formati on on M»c uncfcissifled svste ro w as no t id eal bus ihat he oi'lcit

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did no: hav e a c hoice wh en it came in time sen sitive infor mation . did n ot re call receiv ing any

specific tra inmg or y uidaisee on how time sen sitive inf ormati on should be trsinsn iined.

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1 was sh own a eop v o f an email chai n from

I'ebruar v o f 2012 with the sub jeet 'VUert.' did no! rem emb er t he em ail chain. Ho wever , afi er

i'eviewiu y the emai l he state d tha t

Nonethel ess, did not h ave c once rns s end ing this ty pe o f in forma tion on an

unclas sified syst em becaus e she story

(he inf ormat ion t o the Secr etary bef ore ihat o ccu rred .

was s hown a eo rw o f

with the s ubject

the rei erenc ed a rticle betni i rele ased in the p ress. could not recall at

sn email chain Irons

stated it was se nt p rior to

]v fur ther d etails abou t the

intbrm auo n p rov iik ilii uii iie nia il. He noted that a n umb er o f simi lar st ories were bi-ing relea sed by the

press ai that time.)___________| belie ved that the mfor mutio n in the em ail c ould be treate d as unc lassifie d

because the artic le wa s abo ut io he rele ased and it was criti cal that he no tify the appro priate pe ople within

LJoIS.

Wits show-!! .<! v it-ntnH :'ii;un tWnv-

with th e su bject

provide d th at the emai l w as ib rwar dmg a n ews articl e oi 'inte rest to indiv idual s wi thin DoS.

slated that die c omm ents he includ ed when he f orwar ded the e mail were not mean? io c onfirm the

; vera eftv

further expl ained that

oi she news articl e but rat her io exp ress his frustr ation with the art icle .________

2D! ; was a pa rticul arly diffi cult perio d f or bil ateral rel ation ships io t he re gion and that DoS effor ts w e r e

often c ompl icated hv such arti cles.

noted that it was unus ual for hi m io inte ract direct ly with

___________________________

[provi ded that he

forward ed t he em ail becaus e it was a m atter that requir ed the im med iate atten tion of DoS i o pre serve hs

v'Ouities.

was s hown a co py o f an email cha in from May bl

Ol' 201 with ihe su bject "U pda te.”! did n ot rec all the e sact circumsisWeC;? s.5 emai l but b3

((:/7H H Ai the co nclu sion of't he interv iew not ed th at n one of the ema ils ih at he

wtts show n we re or igina ted by him . T he em ails eith er in volve d i nform ation tha t wa s abo ut io be release d

pitbiielv or were author ed by an othe r in dividua l.

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